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How does Paul not contradict Jesus in these verses?
Jesus said, "Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received, freely give." Matt. 10:
Jesus says give freely.
Paul said, "If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap a material harvest from you?" 1 Cor. 9:11.
Paul says, "pay me".
Do you think Paul may have been in it for the money?
I’m not asking if Paul was beaten and abused, I’m asking if he contradicted Jesus; try to stay on topic for a minute.
Read the whole chapter because thats not the end of it. this is what Paul says after that.
15But I have not used any of these rights. And I am not writing this in the hope that you will do such things for me. I would rather die than have anyone deprive me of this boast
Sanele | Sep 26, 2009
no he didnt. No he wasnt…find something better to do than run down disciples.
Fireball | Sep 26, 2009
And how do you not translate "Freely you have received, freely give." as "Pay me."?
?Machine Head? | Sep 26, 2009
Paul wasn’t in it for the money, he was in it for the power.
choko_canyon | Sep 26, 2009
Paul was the first televangelist.
Jimmy Sawgert has an autographed picture of Paul in his wallet.
ChivaChiva | Sep 26, 2009
"Do you think Paul may have been in it for the money?"
Yes.
Lunatic rose, unpolluted | Sep 26, 2009
I would hardly call anyone who has been stoned more than once for doing his job as a person who is in it for the money.
groknor_34 | Sep 26, 2009
*cough* troll
wrcjmm | Sep 26, 2009
Paul was beaten, stoned (rocks), put in prisons, starved and cold.
That does not sound like someone in it for the money?
I love Paul and what he did for Christianity.
Oli | Sep 26, 2009
If you cared to read further you would have seen verse 12
"But we did not use this right. On the contrary, we put up with anything rather than hinder the gospel of Christ." and
15 "But I have not used any of these rights. And I am not writing this in the hope that you will do such things for me. I would rather die than have anyone deprive me of this boast."
He did not take any food or money from the Corinthinans and was proud of it. No, Paul was definatly not in it for the money.
Azules | Sep 26, 2009
It is interesting the things Paul does not say rather than what he does say. For example, he does not mention Jesus, Joseph, Mary, the miracles, the trouble with the money lenders. etc etc. The only thing he mentions is the Christ.
Odd considering Paul is the only contemporary author with the Christian time line. And seeing as not one of the gospels are old enough to be eye witness accounts.
Paul was a Roman citizen. The most popular belief system in Rome during Paul’s era was Mithra Christos. A religion that predates christianity by c1000 years and is almost identical.
Christianity did not exist until Constantine commissioned the bible, as in bought and paid for. Constantine was historically a worse insane despot that all his predecessors put together and a zealous fanatical Mithra follower.
Jesus is Mithra and Christianity is Mithra christos wearing a new name.
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/or igen048.html
Val | Sep 26, 2009
I think I agree with you. Not a bible scholar , but it does appear Paul is asking for payment for his sowing. Often people give with the expectation of getting. That is where they go wrong. Been reading a great book called Take Me To Truth. Perhaps you might like it also. Some look at giving as loosing something. True giving only expands and takes nothing away.
merlin | Sep 26, 2009
Read the whole context of what Paul has written and the Lord Jesus has said on this subject.
Luke 10:2 Then He said to them, "The harvest truly is great, but the laborers are few; therefore pray the Lord of the harvest to send out laborers into His harvest. 3 Go your way; behold, I send you out as lambs among wolves. 4 Carry neither money bag, knapsack, nor sandals; and greet no one along the road. 5 But whatever house you enter, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ 6 And if a son of peace is there, your peace will rest on it; if not, it will return to you. 7 And remain in the same house, eating and drinking such things as they give, for the laborer is worthy of his wages. Do not go from house to house.
1 Corinthians 9:11 If we have sown spiritual things for you, is it a great thing if we reap your material things? 12 If others are partakers of this right over you, are we not even more? Nevertheless we have not used this right, but endure all things lest we hinder the gospel of Christ. 13 Do you not know that those who minister the holy things eat of the things of the temple, and those who serve at the altar partake of the offerings of the altar? 14 Even so the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should live from the gospel.
1 Timothy 5:17 Let the elders who rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in the word and doctrine. 18 For the Scripture says, "YOU SHALL NOT MUZZLE AN OX WHILE IT TREADS OUT THE GRAIN," and, "THE LABORER IS WORTHY OF HIS WAGES."
Martin S | Sep 26, 2009
God provided that the proclaimers of the good news had the right to accept material help from those to whom they brought it. (1Co 9:11-14) But Paul and his close associates so cherished their privilege as bearers of the good news that they carefully avoided making financial gain therefrom, or even giving the appearance of doing so in connection with their preaching. The apostle Paul describes his course of action in this regard at 1
